by Ulrich Lenz
Barrie Kosky, Suzanne Andrade, and Paul Barritt on flying elephants, the world of silent film, and the eternal search for love.
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How did you come up with the idea of staging The Magic
Flute with 1927?
Barrie Kosky (Artistic Director, Komische Oper Berlin):
More than a decade ago, I attended a performance of Between the Devil and
the Deep Blue Sea, the first show created by the British theater company
known as 1927. From the moment the show started, there was this fascinating mix
of live performance with animation creating its own aesthetic world. Within
minutes, this strange mixture of silent film and music hall had convinced me
that these people had to do The Magic Flute with me in Berlin!
The result was a unique Magic Flute. Although Suzanne
and Paul were working in Berlin for the first time, they had a natural feel for
the city’s artistic ambiance, especially the Berlin of the 1920s, when it was
such an important creative center for painting, cabaret, silent film, and animated
film. Suzanne, Paul, and I share a love for revue, vaudeville, music hall, and
similar forms of theater, and, of course, for silent film. So, Papageno is
suggestive of Buster Keaton, Monostatos is a bit Nosferatu, and Pamina perhaps
a bit reminiscent of Louise Brooks. But it’s more than an homage to silent
film—there are far too many influences from other areas.
Is your love for silent film the motivation behind the
name “1927”?
Suzanne Andrade (co-creator of 1927): 1927 was the
year of the first sound film. The Jazz Singer with Al Jolson was an
absolute sensation at the time. We work with a mixture of live performance and
animation, which makes it a completely new art form in many ways. Many others
have used film in theater, but 1927 integrates film in a very new way. We don’t
do a theater piece with added movies. Nor do we make a movie and then combine
it with acting elements. Everything goes hand in hand. Our shows evoke the world
of dreams and nightmares, with aesthetics that hearken back to the world of
silent film.
Paul Barritt (co-creator of 1927): And yet it would
be wrong to see in our work only the influence of the 1920s and silent film. We
take our visual inspiration from many eras, from the copper engravings of the
18th century as well as in comics of today. There is no preconceived aesthetic
setting in our mind when we work on a show. The important thing is that the
image fits. A good example is Papageno’s aria “Ein Mädchen oder Weibchen” [“A
Girl or a Little Wife”]. In the libretto, he is served a glass of wine in the
dialogue before his aria. We let him have a drink, but it isn’t wine. It’s a
pink cocktail from a giant cocktail glass, and Suzanne had the idea that he
would start to see pink elephants flying around him. Of course, the most famous
of all flying elephants was Dumbo—from the 1940s—but the actual year isn’t
important as long as everything comes together visually.
Suzanne Andrade: Our Magic Flute is a journey
through different worlds of fantasy. But as in all of our shows, there is a
connecting style that ensures that the whole thing doesn’t fall apart
aesthetically.
Barrie Kosky: This is also helped by 1927’s very
special feeling for rhythm. The rhythm of the music and the text has an
enormous influence on the animation. As we worked together on The Magic
Flute, the timing always came from the music, even—especially—in the
dialogues, which we condensed and transformed into silent film intertitles with
piano accompaniment. However, we use an 18th-century fortepiano, and the
accompanying music is by Mozart. This not only gives the whole piece a
consistent style, but also a consistent rhythm. It’s a silent film by Wolfgang
Amadeus Mozart, so to speak!
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Does this piece work without the dialogue?
Suzanne Andrade: I think that almost any story can be
told without words. You can undress a story to the bone, to find out what you
really need to convey the plot. We tried to do that in The Magic Flute.
You can convey so much of a story through purely visual means. You don’t always
need two pages of dialogue to show the relationship between two people. You
don’t need a comic dialogue to show that Papageno is a funny character. A
clever gimmick can sometimes offer more insight than dialogue.
Paul Barritt: Going back to silent films, for a
moment—they weren’t just films without sound, with intertitles in place of the
missing voices. Intertitles were actually used very sparingly. The makers of
silent films instead told their stories through the visual elements. Silent
films told their story through gestures, movements, and glances, and so on.
Barrie Kosky: This emphasis on the images makes it
possible for every viewer to experience the show in his or her own way: as a
magical, living storybook; as a curious, contemporary meditation on silent film
as a singing silent film; or as paintings come to life. Basically, we have a
hundred stage sets in which things happen that normally aren’t possible
onstage: flying elephants, flutes trailing notes, bells as showgirls... We can
fly up to the stars and then ride an elevator to hell, all within a few minutes.
In addition to all the animation in our production, there are also moments when
the singers are in a simple white spotlight. Suddenly there’s only the music,
the text, and the character. The very simplicity makes these perhaps the most
touching moments of the evening. During the performance, the technology doesn’t
play in the foreground. Although Paul spent hours and hours sitting in front of
computer to create it, his animation never loses its deeply human component.
You can always see that a human hand has drawn everything. Video projections as
part of theatrical productions aren’t new. But they often become boring after a
few minutes, because there isn’t any interaction between the two-dimensional
space of the screen and the three dimensions of the actors. Suzanne and Paul
have solved this problem by combining all of these dimensions into a common
theatrical language.
What does The Magic Flute really mean?
Paul Barritt: It’s a love story, told as a fairy
tale.
Suzanne Andrade: The love story between Tamino and
Pamina. Throughout the entire piece, the two try to find each other—but
everyone else separates them and pulls them away from each other. Only at the
very end do they come together.
Barrie Kosky: A strange, fairytale love story, one
that has a lot of archetypal and mythological elements, such as the trials they
must undergo to gain wisdom. They have to go through fire and water to mature.
These are ancient rites of initiation.
Tamino falls in love with a portrait. How many myths and
fairy tales include this plot point? The hero falls in love with a picture and
goes in search of the subject. And on his way to her, he encounters all sorts
of obstacles. And, at the same time, the object of his desire faces her own
personal obstacles on her own journey.
You can experience our production as a journey through the
dream worlds of Tamino and Pamina. These two dream worlds collide and combine
to form one strange dream. The person who combines these dreams and these
worlds is Papageno. We are very focused on these three characters.
Interestingly, Papageno is in pursuit of an idealized image too: the perfect
fantasy woman at his side, something he craves almost desperately.
Printed with permission from LA Opera.
The Magic Flute is on stage February 22–March 9, 2025 at McCaw Hall. Learn more and buy tickets at seattleopera.org/flute.
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